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  Felt the affect of a WTS policy

  by cyberdyne systems 101 in

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  i took my two children home today, and was about to step in when my ex says, 'i've got people here'.

  it turned out to be her sister (also a jw).

  normally i'm ok to go in, but not this time, if i ever go in and she happens to be there she doesnt say a word to me.

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  I took my two children home today, and was about to step in when my ex says, 'i've got people here'. It turned out to be her sister (also a JW). Normally i'm ok to go in, but not this time, if I ever go in and she happens to be there she doesnt say a word to me. I know its not all that bad, but it did cause me to have some anger inside, simply because they follow the idea's of men. I can't blame them, as i know what its like to be that far in, but I wish more people would be able to think about the teachings and have doubts - there is just no getting through to some people I guess.

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  Has the organisation the biblical right to judge its members?

  by Marcel in

  1. watchtower
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  okay, before you say straight "no!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  !1111111111111111" let us rethink.

  lets say jehovas witnesses actually have the truth.

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  Ok, say you take the Bible as gospel(!) you know that Paul was chosen by Christ became an annointed apostle etc. So in that scheme of things you could say that in line with what he wrote, those taking the lead could judge etc. Ok skip to modern day, who are the leaders now? Are they people that got chosen by each generation from Paul to now? I dont think they are are they, in fact they are self appointed. They have an interpretation and wish others to take up that belief and follow it. To become one of these leaders you have to be chosen by the ones already there, so if you dont know anyone on the GB, or have connections to get yourself known, you wont make it.

  So I really dont see there is scriptural evidence to allow the organisation to judge its members - only from the point of view that they have joined that organisation and must follow its rules and regulations, like any man directed organisation, if you break a rule you can be judged by it. An example is Formula 1, its sanctioned and governed by a body - the FIA, if you want to be a part of it you must abide by its rules.

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  Development of the 'meetings'

  by cyberdyne systems 101 in

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  i was wondering if anyone knew how what became the 'meetings' came into being.

  say from the time russell printed the watchtower, to congregations forming and a particular format being followed.. i guess this question arose in my mind because to become a member of a religion/organisation you have to comply to a set of rules or guidelines that make you more unique to that particular religion.

  the jw's have specific meetings, and this is one area i was curious to see the development of.

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  Wow thanks for the research there!

  There does seem to be a common theme of directing things to a unified (controlled) format. Its now become the norm and another area where an unwritten (at least biblically) law is held up as determining whether you are of good standing or not. I was surprised how early direction was being given to those that followed the watchtower, I guess a lot of that history wasn't common knowledge to the r & f dubs like me, though we could have looked it up i suppose - in between all the other information we were bombarded with. In fact if you took in all the spiritual food your supposed to, you'd be a glutten!

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  Development of the 'meetings'

  by cyberdyne systems 101 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was wondering if anyone knew how what became the 'meetings' came into being.

  say from the time russell printed the watchtower, to congregations forming and a particular format being followed.. i guess this question arose in my mind because to become a member of a religion/organisation you have to comply to a set of rules or guidelines that make you more unique to that particular religion.

  the jw's have specific meetings, and this is one area i was curious to see the development of.

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  I was wondering if anyone knew how what became the 'meetings' came into being. Say from the time Russell printed the Watchtower, to congregations forming and a particular format being followed.

  I guess this question arose in my mind because to become a member of a religion/organisation you have to comply to a set of rules or guidelines that make you more unique to that particular religion. The JW's have specific meetings, and this is one area I was curious to see the development of. What i'm saying is that if you accept the Bible to be from God, thats one thing, but to belong to a religion is to take their unique interpretation of the Bible, to follow the idea's of men, in other words. You can only get to God through us kinda thing, you see what i'm getting at.

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  Imaginary Friends can help you get over divorce Apparently

  by Crumpet in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  its been suggested to me by someone who clearly is not aware of my atheism that adopting an imaginary friend could help me find my purpose in life after a relationship breakup.

  it annoys and perplexes me although i realise everyone has a right to their own opinion.. however my opinion is this:.

  my husband hasnt left me - i've never had a husband and i certainly hope i never have that misfortune or get ill enough to suffer such poor judgement as restricting myself to the bed of one person for the rest of my life when i personally am certainly not willing to keep such a promise.

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  I have to agree that i dont think it can really help in such an experience. Having gone through a divorce myself, i think there is no good way to proceed, but a long haul of emotional turmoil that must be gone through in order to face up to it and move forward. I do think doing things to distract you and keeping busy and so on are good things, and perhaps thats what the suggestion was all about, but in the end you still have to go through the pain and difficulty of the experience, although some time out isnt a bad idea.

  Having people to talk to is probably the best thing that helps, to be able to pour out your emotion can be so healing, and its something you want to know is there for you anytime you need it. I've recently began to see how it must have been for my ex, its all to easy to see how it affect yourself, but I also found it healing to acknowledge her pain also and even apologise to her for the pain it caused us both, and my part in any of it.

  Anyway thats my take on what can help get over it

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  One night stands

  by Crumpet in

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  how do you stand on one night stands?

  and why?

  i was really against them and said i never would again.

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  I cant really comment from experience, but I would imagine some people would find it hard to detach emotions from it, like the greek guy mentioned. I personally wouldnt want to do it, but with drink i'm sure it would become an easy line for me to cross, with repercussions the next day. But I dont see that ever happening to me, as I find the whole relationship thing a difficult and unatural (or uncomfortable) idea. I've already failed with it in a big way before and the two other experience since then confirms that. I try to be happy without that need being fulfilled, and on the most part i'm doing well, but if there was an opperation to remove that part of the brain, i'm sure life would be a lot easier!

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  Is this normal?

  by FourMs in

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  after i came to terms with my decision to leave the org, i suddenly didnt want to anything to do with god.

  its been several months and i still dont want to hear people talk about whether there is a god or not.

  or when people say that they thank god for this and that.

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  I think it is normal, cause the same thing happened to me. One day I was a loyal witness going to all the meetings, ministry answering etc, the next i'd cut it off completely. I've had similar feelings regarding god, its put me off to think all religions use him to get people to do things the way they want, a form of control as I see it. I see no proof either way now, and therefore can't trust the words of any man - whether that be bible writers or modern day religious leaders.

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  When the "honeymoon" is over....will previous doubts be revisited later?

  by whyizit in

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  i have been studying a lot about mind control.

  i understand that while someone is in the "honeymoon" phase of being recruited in to a group, it is very unlikely that they will leave.

  my jw friend is still in that stage.

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  I've never thought of a honeymoon period, but your right now i think back. Unfortunately the post wedding (baptism) can last many years , just as in any abusive relationship - the partner tells you that your not good enough, deals with you badly and then says that they are the only one who can love you. So as with any controlling relationship, it can take a long time for someone to break free.

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  Where do you like to sit on a plane and why?

  by Crumpet in

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  i'm trying to decide where i want to sit on the plane to dallas - i can choose online 24 hours beforehand but am not sure where is best for comfort, quiet, service, view.

  is there anyway of predicting where any babies might be so i can be as far away as possible from them?.

  https://www.britishairways.com/travel/managebooking/public/en_gb?eid=104504&source=mmb_tab_ob.

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  Usually prefer the window seat, but once when I went on holiday to Turkey there were a few of us and we all sat on the ends and played cards over the isle which was cool.

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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the 4-15-07 (EXALT JAH'S NAME)

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  let us exalt jehovah's name together.

  " (psalm 34:3) what a fine example for us to follow!does matthew 26:30 say anything about singing "jehovahs praises"?.

  *** w04 4/15 p. 17 par.

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  I have to say this was one thing I frequently did not agree with - the fact that someone would claim to have had Jehovah's protection, when someone else didnt. I couldn't see how anyone (including the society) could make such a claim. I now realise its a reinforcing technique used to show that JW's are the only true religion to their members. Followers want to believe it so they buy it big time, anything that goes well for them becomes a blessing from Jehovah, anything bad was Satan and this world getting at them.

  Anyway i've not had a chance to thank you Blondie for a while, for your effort to produce the comments, so a big thank you from me.

  By the way I like the new font/size etc too

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